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Al Caholic
Cider Bus Convert



Vatican City
145 Posts

Posted - 30/11/2004 :  14:09:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Bristol Beer festival (and this means copious amounts of cider and perry too)is going to be back at Temple Meads on the 4th and 5th of March. I'm going to sort out some tickets asap as they go on sale soon and sell out quickly, especially for the Friday night session. Let me know if anyone else wants one and I'll get them at the same time.

As if that wasn't enough to marvel about (and I think Gents will be especially interested in this) apparently the Richmond Springs in Clifton right next to the Union/Anson Rooms is under new management and now has alongside a great selection of ales, A WHOLE BAR THAT JUST SERVES CIDER CALLED "THE CIDER PRESS"!!!!!. I plan to pay a visit asap and check it out and will post the results on the forum.

Happy zidering

Al
Zider I up barkeep!

Edited by - Al Caholic on 30/11/2004 14:09:57

Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 30/11/2004 :  14:31:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh yes, im there for that! Was gutted to miss out last year, i think they have 20 different ciders or something stupid don't they??? Friday would be much much better for be that weekend, not sure if i can do saturday. Maybe we can get the afternoon off?

And again, ohhhh yessss regarding the Richmond Springs! That sounds like the best news ive ever heard! Hope it is decent stuff. And guess what popular Bristol music venue i am going to on Saturday??? Yes, its the Anson Rooms. Oh joy beyond joy.

Is there anywhere on the net i can read about either bit of news? (that you havent barred me from???)

ZIDER!
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Chowie
Cider Bus Convert



USA
229 Posts

Posted - 30/11/2004 :  20:23:28  Show Profile  Click to see Chowie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I am up for this too

http://www.camrabristol.org.uk/festival.html



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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  10:18:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is from the latest edition of "Pints West", think we are going to get tickets for the Friday evening session, should anyone want to join us. 40 Ciders!

And what will we be offering at the festival? A fantastic range of well over a hundred real ales, that’s what. And for lovers of all things apple and pear, there will be a great selection of around forty ciders and perries.

THE 2005 BRISTOL BEER FESTIVAL will take place at the Brunel Shed,
Temple Meads on Friday 4th and Saturday 5th March. The times and
ticket prices of the four sessions are:

Friday lunchtime 11.30 - 3.00 £3.50
Friday evening 6.00 - 11.00 £5.00
Saturday lunchtime 11.30 - 4.00 £4.50
Saturday evening 7.00 - 11.00 £4.00

Tickets will go on sale in early December and should be available from
the following pubs:
Off The Rails Station Approach, Weston-super-Mare
(01934) 415109
Bridge Inn Passage Street, Bristol
(0117) 9499967
Wellington Gloucester Road, Horfield
(0117) 9513022
Plume of Feathers Hotwell Road, Hotwells
(0117) 9298666 www.plumeoffeathers.com

They will also be available by post from:
CAMRA, c/o 7 Kellaway Court, 142 Kellaway Avenue,
Golden Hill, Bristol BS6 7YP.
Please note this is a postal forwarding address only – tickets will not be sold to callers. Do remember to state which session or sessions you want tickets for and enclose a cheque payable to “Bristol & District CAMRA”, together with a stamped, addressed envelope. Please also supply a telephone number and/or email address in case of queries.


ZIDER!
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Ivanhoe Martin
Cider Bus Convert



Oman
273 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  11:58:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If only it was two weeks later, I could have stopped by on the way to Cheltenham.

Hope you have a good time.
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Jack the Hat
Blackthorn Experimenter



64 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  13:23:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cider me up I'll join you.

Maybe we can do cider on Friday and Ale on Saturday? Can't do it the other way round as cider on beer makes you a queer - just like last Friday night eh Al?
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Ivanhoe Martin
Cider Bus Convert



Oman
273 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  16:35:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what does beer on cider make you (apart from stupid to stop drinking cider in the first place)?
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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2004 :  19:16:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"beer on cider makes a good rider, cider on beer makes you feel queer" - think thats the rhyme

ZIDER!
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Al Caholic
Cider Bus Convert



Vatican City
145 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2004 :  14:13:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who are you calling queer Jack?

LET'S NOT FORGET WHO WAS DRINKING SHERRY AND BLOODY MARYS EH?

Al
Zider I up barkeep!

Edited by - Al Caholic on 02/12/2004 14:13:41
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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2004 :  14:52:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After doing some research on where this saying comes from i found this letter (http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/OLD-WORDS/2001-02/0982588976) from a bloke called Mikey who sounds like he has been drinking more than his fair share of cider on beer, and his tale of "a lovely man called Ken". And i wouldn't like to guess what/who Ken found in the fields and took home to eat really.

Back to the original subject, a few of us have got tickets for Friday evening at the beer fest, and apparently they will sell out over the weekend so get em quick anyone else coming. You joining us Chowie?


ZIDER!
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Chowie
Cider Bus Convert



USA
229 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2004 :  20:34:51  Show Profile  Click to see Chowie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I would like to get a few tickets, will see if I can sort it.
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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  12:41:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I checked out the Richmond Springs and its not good news. Firstly, we weren't allowed in the "Cyder Press" bar because about 6 women were having a meeting! But luckily (well i thought it was lucky at the time) they were still serving the ciders, which was a strange selection of Scrumpy Jack, Blackthorn Cidermaster (according to the barman "like Blackthorn but nicer"), Bulmers Original ("fizzy"), and then the 2 we actually tried... Bulmers Traditional which looked encouraging at first, it was still and slightly cloudy but tasted completely of vinegar and was horrible, it was 4.9% strength but tasted lethal, i couldn't manage more than 1/3rd of a pint. Not sure if it had ever tasted good and had just been kept badly, or was always this disgusting. My cider side-kick has a Taunton Traditional which was watery and pretty bad, but then most pints of Taunton that ive had lately have been simialar (apart from at the Miners Rest in Long Ashton where it still tastes great).

Ive never had Bulmers Original or Blackthorn Cidermaster before (has anyone?) so cant comment on these, but judging by who makes them i don't hold out much hope. Seems like the pub have seen how popular the Corrie Tap is with students and tried to re-create a part of it in the Richmond Springs. Hopefully im wrong, just had a bad pint, and they will sort it out stock some good stuff but i had a bad feeling about the whole thing.

ZIDER!
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Ivanhoe Martin
Cider Bus Convert



Oman
273 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  14:37:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bulmers Traditional (which I'd always thought of as being the same as draught Original: a cloudy, still cider with - quite often - an orangey tinge) is a decent pint in Hereford. It was the first draught real cider I used to drink regularly (although it was never given the compliment of a name in the pub that we used to go to when we were 13. It just came from the barrel on the bar). I'd drink it again, in spite of it being Bulmers. If you had cider in the Barrels in Hfd, Gents, wouldn't that have been it?

Original (I think, but I may be getting the names confused) can be seen in two varieties (a bit like Westons Scrumpy Supreme - which can be a clear, filtered, carbonated keg of bottle cider, or a cloudy draught lovely real cider). You get it on keg, and on real live (nice)draught. There is no similarity at all between the two products.

Cidermaster is not a new cider. It's just a different name on the font. It tastes as rubbish as any of the horrible Blackthorn/Strongbow sorts of thing.

Shame your cider bar sounds like more of a "cider" bar.
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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  16:59:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe (hopefully) i just had a bad pint of Bulmers so i'll give it another try if im up that way. I didn't think much of the pub overall though, the "cyder press" seemed to be a bit of a gimmick rather than something they were taking pride in, and if the landlord properly loved his cider then there is no excuse in serving Scrumpy Jack, an evil twin of Blackthorn and a pint that had gone very, very bad if it was nice in the first place.

When i was in the Barrels in Hereford it was really packed, and as the bar seems to go round in a circle in the middle of the pub it was hard to see every tap, but the only ciders i spotted were Stowford, Thatchers Heritage and Gold Label... they may have had a few more tho.

I thought i read a few years ago that Bulmers were ceasing production of the last proper cider they made - which i think was called No.7 or something? I guess ive got this wrong tho?

ZIDER!
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Ivanhoe Martin
Cider Bus Convert



Oman
273 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  17:11:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Number 7 was a fine cider. Bottle conditioned and clear, but with a great, "vintage" taste and light fizz. About 20 years ago you'd still find it in some of the more out-of -the-way pubs in and around Hereford. It came in small (?1/2 pint?) bottles, with a white or cream label with black type and an engraving of some cider-related scene, and when I was a lad one of them used to give me v rosy cheeks and a wobbly bike ride home.

Usually in the Barrels they do a cloudy "Bulmers" (but now you mention it, I have to put ""s around "Bulmers" because the story is now coming back to me. We're both right, I now remember.) Bulmers have always marketed a still, real, cider brand (Traditional/Original), but recently they decided to stop producing it themselves and outsourced it to Westons. So Westons make it, and it goes in Bulmers barrels and is served from a Bulmers pump. I remember the story now, because the last time we did any cider farm visiting in Hfdshire, someone was telling me about how their local had stopped selling Original because the locals didn't like it now it was being made by Westons (I remember it because it sounded so unlikely that anyone would prefer a Bulmers brew to a Westons one). Maybe that's what's happened at the Barrels. I'll research it when I'm back there at Christmas.
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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  20:20:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That No.7 sounds lovely, its a real shame they don't make anything like that anymore. If i did read an article saying that Bulmers were dicontinuing it, it must have been pretty old!

Interesting about Westons, i never knew that. If anything that just adds to the mystery of why my pint tasted so back because i really like all of the Westons brands... maybe it was just a barrel that had gone bad...

ZIDER!
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